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As hard as it goes this is a very worthwhile topic. When I was younger and did a lot of custom farming, it was so depressing to have to cut beans or even make hay on a farm where someone had not adjusted to disc harrow properly and had to farm full of disc ridges. A dead furrow or a deep disc Ridge is hard to get rid of in our ground. I know sometime people had the Disc set properly but then when they went to go over to second time they drove in the same tracks and that will really cause the disc to wallow. If we had to disk second time we always offset by 30% and that seemed to work everything shut. In these parts you very seldom see a disc without a culti Packer behind it. I am so glad tillage is something we gave up many years ago.Cline is correct the field should be smooth and level before transitioning to no-till........
 
We use an Unverferth Perfecta II for leveling up fields around here. It works real good and the rolling baskets make for a nice seed bed.
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Mike Harris(NDVA Hayman) spoke highly of Unverferth Perfecta with the rolling basket for smoothing up ground. They look like they would do the job.

Hayden if you lived nearby we would just buy one and split the costs.....a fella hates to fork out the green when its something that you don't use often.

Regards, Mike
 
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With the gangs straight i would think it would do an exelent job as well but I haven't personally seen that. I don't see any need in pulling a chisel if you have the turbo max to pull across the ground. They want 25k for a 10' model but if I can eliminate 3-5 passes across the ground for a normal planting what is that worth $$ wise. My teff ground I finally got worked up and ready to plant but it took me 7 trips across the field to get it in near perfect shape and if I can find a cultimulcher I'll add one more to that. With my current equipment I chiseled, disced 3 times pulled the finishing cultivator then harrowed twice.
This ground I'm working up needed to be chiseled deep to break up some compaction. The ground was also rough and uneven from previous years tillage so a lot of dirt needed to be moved around to get it smooth.....not sure how a turbo max would have worked in that situation. I think if the ground is in good shape a pass with the turbo max would work well without any other tillage.

In your sprigging video was that just one trip across the field with the turbo max and how deep was it running? Very nice looking seedbed.
 
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Mike Harris(NDVA Hayman) spoke highly of Unverferth Perfecta with the rolling basket for smoothing up ground. They look like they would do the job.

Hayden if you lived nearby we would just buy one and split the costs.....a fella hates to fork out the green when its something that you don't use often.

Regards, Mike
Yep, too bad we don't live a little closer......I know what you mean about spending a lot of money on something you don't use that often.....that is it what has kept me from buying better tillage equipment so far. But then every time I use what I have I get frustrated and wish I had bought something that would do a better job.

This particular place I'm trying to get worked up I intend on keeping it no till from now on as it is very erosion prone.....but I have to get it smooth enough first.
 
This ground I'm working up needed to be chiseled deep to break up some compaction. The ground was also rough and uneven from previous years tillage so a lot of dirt needed to be moved around to get it smooth.....not sure how a turbo max would have worked in that situation. I think if the ground is in good shape a pass with the turbo max would work well without any other tillage.

In your sprigging video was that just one trip across the field with the turbo max and how deep was it running? Very nice looking seedbed.
Yes sir single pass. That's where a nice set of rippers comes in. I know what you mean about not spending money on tillage equipment, I've got the minimum and not very nice equipment but I've worked more ground this year than I have in the last 4 at a whole 60 acres.
 
Just an observation over the years. A disc will tend to aggravate whatever gross unevenness problem exists in a field. A field cultivator is a great tool to level with. After that a drag harrow.
 
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Which device on that tool does the leveling,is it that single tooth bar in front of the rolling basket. I would also think that would have to be clean tillage that tool would not go through crop residual
If you're referring to the Perfecta, no it won't go thru much in the line crop residue, maybe bean stubble but that's about it. You still need to disc ahead of it but I've found that just one pass with a disc after plowing and a pass with the perfecta will leave the ground much more level and leaves a good seed bed unless you have some gnarly clay or other tough ground conditions.
 
I'm hoping to get a K line speed disk this fall and sell the moldboard plow.18k. Saw it work in sod and was really impressed. To maintain 10mph I have to drop to an 8 ft implement. I've been doing deep tillage with roots lately so I just need to clean off the surface for good stands. As far as leveling goes. Currently, I pull spring tooth harrows right bend the disk for two passes. Then I drop those and pull a 10" C channel legs down. Flip it over flat for final pass. And snowmobilers wonder why I'm pissed off at them. That's a lot of time and fuel spent on $120 ton hay.
 
This is a great topic. I would like to get several of my fields much more level before the next stand of hay is planted. In general they are relatively level, but years of strip farming has left remains of dead furrow depressions from one end to the other in several locations across each field. What is the best way to level and eliminate these?
 
This is a great topic. I would like to get several of my fields much more level before the next stand of hay is planted. In general they are relatively level, but years of strip farming has left remains of dead furrow depressions from one end to the other in several locations across each field. What is the best way to level and eliminate these?
I would utilize some of the tips that I have mentioned above. I would assume you are moldboard plowing? Not knowing what pieces you have I can't give specifics but you want to work the field at an angle or straight across to move as much dirt as possible to fill in the depressions. Not knowing how deep they are it may take many passes til you are satisfied with the results. You always want to finish a field in the same direction as you will be planting it.

I have a field that I took back after many years of my cousin planting corn on it. They chisel it and ran over with the mulch finishers and always in the same direction. I plowed, went length wise and then width wise with discs followed by width wise then length wise with the drags packed planted and packed again. Looked good but when you drive width wise on it you can feel the depressions I should have spent more time with the drags. Different field different renter planted many years in corn same prep for corn chisel and and mulch finishers but he spends more time working the field. I did same procedure as above and it is smooth. Another thing that makes a difference is the size of your equipment. It is hard to get a nice finish if your equipment is to big for tractor or vise versa.
 
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