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Vermeer 554xl

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Hi I am new heat and not very knowledgeable on round bakers. If anyone could lead me in a direction that would be awesome. I picked up a used Vermeer 554xl. The guy I bought it from said when he was making a wet bale the core would build up on the side wall and trigger the clutch, he said it worked fine for the last 8,000 bales. It was in short bent grass. The next day he made a 100 dry bales just fine. The other thing he said was it worked fine until he had to rebuild the gear box. I hope someone can lead me in the right direction
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Charley
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Welcome aboard! What neck of the woods do you hay in? So I’m not to sure what you’re asking; if it’s in working condition then it should continue working. I know the Vermeer tend to be pretty good machine.
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I also am having difficulty understanding what information you're seeking.
Sorry I was trying to figure out why it won’t make a complete silage bale. Is there something out of adjustment?
Welcome aboard! What neck of the woods do you hay in? So I’m not to sure what you’re asking; if it’s in working condition then it should continue working. I know the Vermeer tend to be pretty good machine.
I live in southwest Washington
Sorry I was trying to figure out why it won’t make a complete silage bale. Is there something out of adjustment?
The guy also told me it would not make a bale in short grass
Well I don’t believe that’s a silage baler that’s why it’s having difficulties baling silage. There is a big difference between round silage and non silage baler. Short grass is always a problem starting a core. The best thing is to make the biggest windrow for short grass.
Well that make sense if it is a silage baler. In your opinion do you think I could bale like 30% moisture hay with it?
Sorry I was trying to figure out why it won’t make a complete silage bale. Is there something out of adjustment?
Is it a silage baler? Does it have a chopper and is it correctly adjusted?
To the best of my knowledge, there is no adjustment on the pickup clutch. They do wear and have to be replaced. What about the cam rollers? They are a significant wear item and will make the clutch trip prematurely.
Is it a silage baler? Does it have a chopper and is it correctly adjusted?
To the best of my knowledge, there is no adjustment on the pickup clutch. They do wear and have to be replaced. What about the cam rollers? They are a significant wear item and will make the clutch trip prematurely.
Thank you for the ideas I will check the cam rollers first. That makes the most since. He told me they looked fine when checked them last, that was my first clue they were probably bad
Is driveline slip clutch slipping? Operating a rd baler is a learned art. No offense intended but it's been my experience some people can master the task & some can't. I hope you're one in the 1st group.
Is driveline slip clutch slipping? Operating a rd baler is a learned art. No offense intended but it's been my experience some people can master the task & some can't. I hope you're one in the 1st group.
That is my goal I will probably only put about a 100 bales in the spring to start
That is my goal I will probably only put about a 100 bales in the spring to start
He said it would start to make a bale and seemed like it got tight against the wall of the baler. I am going to go through all the adjustments this winter and inspect everything hopefully I can make it work
I would start with new OEM teeth. The pickup teeth are critical for bale start on that baler.( it does sound like it is starting ok though?) I would also look at the pickup clutch too if it has one. I'm not sure that all the 554s had one.
More critically for your issues, is it taking power when it stops? Or does the bale just stop turning? Are your belts all twisted when it stops?

If I was sure the slip clutch was working, I would say you need a 82365001 restrictor plate to minimize sidewall friction.
I would start with new OEM teeth. The pickup teeth are critical for bale start on that baler.( it does sound like it is starting ok though?) I would also look at the pickup clutch too if it has one. I'm not sure that all the 554s had one.
More critically for your issues, is it taking power when it stops? Or does the bale just stop turning? Are your belts all twisted when it stops?

If I was sure the slip clutch was working, I would say you need a 82365001 restrictor plate to minimize sidewall friction.
The bale just stops turning is what he said then you have to pull it all out. I was just wondering if the gear box had anything to do with it or if there was an adjustment near the gear box that got moved to get the gear box out
The bale just stops turning is what he said then you have to pull it all out. I was just wondering if the gear box had anything to do with it or if there was an adjustment near the gear box that got moved to get the gear box out
The gearbox and attachments tend to be binary, either they work or they don't.
The only thing I can think is perhaps the cutout clutch is corroded and kicking out at too low of torque. You can easily disassemble it and clean it.
The gearbox and attachments tend to be binary, either they work or they don't.
The only thing I can think is perhaps the cutout clutch is corroded and kicking out at too low of torque. You can easily disassemble it and clean it.
Awesome thank you for the tips I am a few weeks away from putting it in the shop.
The bale just stops turning is what he said then you have to pull it all out. I was just wondering if the gear box had anything to do with it or if there was an adjustment near the gear box that got moved to get the gear box out
The clutch is a dog type, so you will hear a "popping" noise as it turns when in enough of a bind to disengage. It is noticeable. The cam followers can be noisy if it has not maintained properly. There is no bearing left or the bearing is frozen and drags making a flat spot that wears the guide way. The teeth can rub the guards and be noisy. Worn teeth can do it worse. The spring on the teeth gets weak and they do not pick up the hay very well.
How many bales is the baler showing?
The clutch is a dog type, so you will hear a "popping" noise as it turns when in enough of a bind to disengage. It is noticeable. The cam followers can be noisy if it has not maintained properly. There is no bearing left or the bearing is frozen and drags making a flat spot that wears the guide way. The teeth can rub the guards and be noisy. Worn teeth can do it worse. The spring on the teeth gets weak and they do not pick up the hay very well.
How many bales is the baler showing?
8800 he said the only thing he ever had to replace was the gear box
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