To start with, I'm new to the forum and secondly I'm not a farmer. That alone may exempt me from the forum! :mellow: I do own a ranch in south Texas which requires the use of a tractor for a lot of shredding, minor dirt work, and moving large feeders and other heavy objects from time to time. I'm an absentee owner so my tractor work is restricted to several weekends a year. I currently own an open station MF471 and due to age related issues with heat and an influx of Africanized bee populations I'm looking to trade it in for a cab tractor. My wife has a John Deere 5525 with a cab (said if she was going to continue to help out she wanted to be cool and comfortable) and its been a great tractor for us. However; I've recently looked at the JD line and no offense to anyone but it appears the quality has dropped in the last 8 years. That may be the case with most lines, not sure. I love the MF I have and have had no problems whatsoever with it so I am now looking at the 4610M. I know absolutely nothing about any other brands so if anyone has suggestions about ones I should research please feel free to forward your opinions. Thanks!