[hillside hay]

Is that the 8 series Krone? I thought it was the large flake that steered that horse folk away. The SS 4-6 lb flake is kind of idiot proof for stables.

 

[Trillium Farm]

Is that the 8 series Krone? I thought it was the large flake that steered that horse folk away. The SS 4-6 lb flake is kind of idiot proof for stables.

There are 2 models, 1 with individual bales in the bundle around 120-150lbs and another one smaller with bales around 70-90 lbs and the smaller baler is also cheaper and needs less hp in the tractor.

 

[Hayjosh]

One huge obstacle I see that faces the Vet is the fact that animals can't tell you they have a headache, or where's the pain located, or what they had for supper last night that gave them the GIs. I agree that it must be a passion for the job. Have a niece that's a Vet assistant.....just loves it.

And owners that don't want to take the animals in or wait too long to get them the care they need.

 

[swmnhay]

And owners that don't want to take the animals in or wait too long to get them the care they need.

some people are the same way,they don't go in until it's to late.

 

[r82230]

One thing your missing is the difference between the way our public health care is ran in Canada compared to south of the border. Malpractice suits in Canada are just about non existent.

And with no malpractice suits, no excessive attorney fees, hum, ever wonder what a reduction of excessive attorney fees would do to our (the US) insurance rates?

Oops, back to RBs.

Larry

 

[somedevildawg]

But what happens when some sob takes off the wrong arm, or does a knee replacement on the wrong knee.......or kills your ass . What to do now......

 

[stack em up]

But what happens when some sob takes off the wrong arm, or does a knee replacement on the wrong knee.......or kills your ass . What to do now......

Wtf does it matter? You're dead, your problems are over.

 

[somedevildawg]

Nope, what about Pegleg, what about one lung, and most importantly, what about my wife/sons and daughters? All because some dumb, graduate in the bottom of the class, M.D. Went out and got drunk with the boys the night before.....or didn't follow protocol and now I have an infection that's gonna be with me the rest of my life? One thing to always remember about doctors....they didn't all graduate in the top of the class, someone had to graduate at the bottom....not to say that all that didn't graduate high are bad, but you get the picture. Without the ability to sue their ass, the quality goes down.....

 

[stack em up]

My wife’s grandma had a double mastectomy probably 20 years ago. Wasn’t supposed to be a double, but the doctor actually took the wrong one. I kid you not. They never sued for malpractice (her grandma is way too nice) When the hospital realized the mistake, they said they would not charge insurance for the double mastectomy, just the single. Can’t make shit like this up.

 

[swmnhay]

The problem is with a huge malpractice lawsuit is that the dr doesn't pay it the insurance co does and then we all pay higher hospital rates because their insurance premiums went up.

El drunko Dr who screwed up goes on doing what he does maybe at another hospital.

 

[endrow]

In 2015 I had my left hip replaced and 3 months later I had my right hip replaced.. when I went in for my left hip as I was in the area getting ready for surgery the person in charge of preparations ask me if I was aware it was my left hip I said yes I was so she put a big X in the area of my left hip where the incision would be and initialed it. Then the surgeon came in and among several other things he asked the same question and initialed the left hip. Just before I went into surgery another girl who was called a follower ask the same question and she initialed my hip. This girl also went over the same things the surgeon had gone over and explained surgery again even though it had been explained to me before. She then told me she would stay with me the whole way through surgery and until I woke up and Recovery that way she could document everything that went on. When I had the other side done it was the same way. I believe they really try to cover their butt in this day and age

 

[somedevildawg]

They have gotten much better, but certainly not perfect....most of the time it's careless mistakes and poor infectious diseases protocol. When you look at some of the subordinates they hire, it's easy to understand why.......all about the bottom line.

 

[KYhaymaker]

Lawsuits as they are now just add cost because payouts dont change anything but the bottom line...adding cost which gets passed on to the customer like every business. If you want to change something, then the doctor’s license to practice medicine must be at risk...not just his malpractice insurance. Thats when true accountability will be seen.

 

[somedevildawg]

Lawsuits as they are now just add cost because payouts dont change anything but the bottom line...adding cost which gets passed on to the customer like every business. If you want to change something, then the doctor's license to practice medicine must be at risk...not just his malpractice insurance. Thats when true accountability will be seen.

Can't disagree with your assessment...however, with the buyouts and the overreach by the hospitals and such, it's all profit driven.....a lot of times the surgeon may be faced with a backlog of patients and a shortage of available surgical help in favor of less qualified help, relying heavily on cheaper labor to increase the bottom line. In that case, it may be the hospital that has created the problem....not the surgeon. In today's time, the actual M.D. Is further out of the loop of patient care.....

I'll give a recent example.......I have a friend that is two years younger than I, he's 55......healthy guy. His long time MD retires and hands him off to the new MD that's replacing him, now part of a big hospital outfit, no longer an independent. The new guy wants a complete work-up on my friend....because he's basically a "new" patient, although he had all of his medical records from the previous M.D. My buddy does the tests and low and behold, he now has high blood pressure and high cholesterol.....my buddy is stunned but figures "hell, I guess that's confirmation, I'm gettin old " so he started taking the meds issued to him and within a month he's not feeling well at all. One weekend he's at a horse show in Dothan Al. And he crashes, body just gives out.....take him to the emergency room, can't figure out what the hell is wrong, vitals are falling.....they finally stabilize him after 5 days in the hospital. Then they tell him that they suspect cancer.....he comes back to a oncologist in his hometown. During that time, they are taking blood every two days trying to find out what's going on......he's looking over his medical records and realizes that the birthday is wrong . So he calls the office of the new Doctor, apparently, his results weren't his at all, it was a data input error and he had been being treated for high blood pressure and high cholesterol and taken off of some meds that he needed......once he realized what was happening, it was corrected and he fully recovered. But it wasn't really the M.D. Fault, it was a staff that was either overburdened or incompetent.
He said he wasn't going to sue. I would sue their ass....not only did he have to endure pain and suffering, he was financially affected by losing work and paying deductables.....but, to your earlier statement, they just file it with insurance, nothing will ever come of it in the long run to help patient care if someone else is paying the tab.....

 

[JD3430]

As I approached my mid 40's, I kept getting solicitations to make sure I get a prostate exam. Basically, the list of "symptoms" they list are ones anyone could have. I was feeling fine, but had frequent trips to the bathroom during the day. So I went with one of the ones sending me mailers and within 2 visits, he was giving me a catheter to look at my bladder and all sorts of uncomfortable tests.

This "doctor" had me pretty convinced I had prostate cancer and wanted me to take more serious test, a prostate biopsy.

In a state of shock, I drove home and explained what was going on to my wife. I kind of took stock of things, had 2 little kids at the time and kept thinking this didnt feel right.

Called my old trusty GP doctor and explained to him what had happened. He asked me who I went to see and a sort of grin of disbelief came over his face. He gave me the name of a reputable prostate doc. I went to his office maybe a week later (living my life scared shitless for a week aint much fun).

Anyway, I go to the trusted doctor and he does an exam, gets my PSA results and some other basic tests. He comes into the exam room and says "I see you've been to doctor _______" I said yeah I did. He said to me, "you dont have prostate cancer". You were scared into believing you might have it so he could perform a $20,000 proceedure on you so he could buy an even bigger Mercedes". I couldnt believe what I was hearing. I was always told doctors never talk bad about each other. But needless to say, I was relieved.

So that was 10 years ago. I feel fine and my PSA tests have been OK (knock on wood). The prostate doctor that sent me the colored brochure in the mail is gone. He left town quietly.

Do your homework, ask questions, and understand the human emotion of greed, which permeates all walks of life, even seemingly "well-meaning" doctors. The ones who took the hypocratic oath.

On Edit: My GP doctor, who was a fantastic human being died on the job in 2016. He was flat broke. He fell and broke his hip years before and never had his hip fixed because he wouldnt be able to serve his patients. His son started a "fund me" page. They had to borrow money to pay for his funeral expenses. I contributed to him to help pay his funeral expenses. I talked to his wife and by the time he died, they had to sell their house and rent an apartment to pay his doctors office rent and expenses. He made almost no money in the last 5 years of his life, yet he continued to serve me and his other patients.

 

[r82230]

The problem is with a huge malpractice lawsuit is that the dr doesn't pay it the insurance co does and then we all pay higher hospital rates because their insurance premiums went up.

El drunko Dr who screwed up goes on doing what he does maybe at another hospital.

Had a doctor who 'practiced' (using that term rather loosely), in my office complex, he was an OB/GYN, was still 'practicing' in his late 70's, early 80's. He took almost only Medicaid patients, had NO insurance (either couldn't get or couldn't afford, after 5 divorces). Guess what finally pushed him out of business.................... no hospital would allow him to do surgery any more. :huh: He tried working with other doctors to re-establish his surgical credentials with no luck (he could hardly even walk on his own, his hands shanked, like he had Parkinson's).

Who know how many 'screw up' he had, before loosing his surgery privileges and with no insurance, my guess is the taxpayers are paying something, something.

I believe one major difference between the US and Canada/European court system, is that the punitive damages all go to the government (not the individual/attorney as in the US). I seen punitive damages 10s if not 100s of times larger than the pain/suffering/loss of life/body parts damages.

Larry

 

[KYhaymaker]

Surgeon in my hometown nearly killed my dad, punctured his bowel in three places, sewed him up that way. After a week I went in and told the surgeon and the hospital that he was leaving with me, that they were killing him. When the surgeon protested I told her it wasnt a request, he was leaving with me that very day. I took him to a major hospital half hour a way were they figured things out. I tried to get my parents to sue but they wouldnt. Since found out that several people I know have been hurt by her, yet nothing ever happens.

 

[swmnhay]

Only thing the local hospital is good for here is to stabilize you and get you on a chopper to Sioux Falls.

 

[skyrydr2]

Alright! That should be about enough of the medical debates your scaring the shit out of me! Lets talk about a decent 4x4 or 4x5 net wrapping round balers PLEASE.

 

[JD3430]

Had a discussion with my biggest "mulch king" hay buyer today. He suggested I stay with a round baler rather than trade it in on big square or at least keep it along with a square baler. We talked about all the rain we had this year and how much longer round bales "keep" outside compared to big squares. I told him I wasn't exactly thrilled with the prospect of pulling huge tarps on hay stacks, either- I ain't gettin any younger. He went on to tell me he buys 3,000 4x6 RB's @ 1,000lb/ea from a guy in Maryland.

This year we had so much rain. A buddy of mine that makes 3x4's has stacks that look really bad. Round bales seem to be the ticket if its a bad weather year and/or you're challenged for indoor storage.