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[Vol]

From Growing Tennessee.

 

Regards, Mike

 

https://tennessee.gr...accination-plan

[r82230]

My group was approved Monday of this week to get shots but...........................................can't get a time slot.  Our almost famous Gov, says "it's complicated" on the reason's Michigan is lagging so far behind the national average (which seems also slow at around a third of doses administered).  She also keeps blaming Fed for not releasing more doses, which I don't understand, why cry about that when you are setting on over 3/4's of the doses (200K out of over 800K in procession) you have already.

 

Just talked to a teacher yesterday that got through the web sign-in portal, her time slot 16 days out (January 28th).   Here it seems there is way to much finger pointing verses rolling up the sleeves and injecting.   A county near by, the Sheriff tried to get involved, he wanted a large parking lot area, with a drive through building utilized (absolutely no tents ).  That seemed like a a tall order, what was he planning to take over a car dealership that has an oil change facility?

 

Larry

[stack em up]

Not sure how Minnesota’s rollout of the vaccine is going. Dad got a letter from Mayo that he is able to get it when he wants, not sure about Mom. If it’s anything government run, you can guarantee it’s going to get messed up.

[KS John]

Think I will just pass. I became more politically aware during the Clinton years and not much if anything has convinced me to trust the government. Especially when things are rushed.

 

As Larry would say I may have shorted you on the 2 cents.

[weatherman]

I was a pin cushion while serving in the military for 20 years. Got more shots then most when deployed. My head jerks to the left and then to the right from time to time. I think I will wait this one out.

[mlappin]

No rush here either, takes years for side effects to show up. Not getting a vaccination that didn’t exist or was even thought might ever be needed less than a year ago.

Our family doc is pushing hard for my wife to get it considering her congenital cardiac issues.

[haybaler101]

I got notice I could get mine right when it came out because I am a firefighter. I think I wil wait. Several guys on department got theirs and will get second shot next week. Interesting to see what effects they have.  My parents are in their 70’s and should be up next in Indiana and I am encouraging them to get it ASAP just because I think COVID-19 would be a lot worse for them than any side effects. Plus my dad is a real pansy ass and would never survive it. Dad’s brother and his wife just had Covid right before Christmas, they are both 80. He thought he was going to die for a couple days but was never hospitalized and took him about 2 weeks to get his strength back (he was still working at a coop full time and a lot more active than my dad). His wife has congestive heart failure and has been fat and lazy all her life and she never missed a beat!  I definitely would not recommend anyone of child bearing age to get the vaccine because who knows what is in the crap.

[mlappin]

We have a Korean war veteran at our local Legion that had it, was hospitalized for a few days and that was it, once they released him was back to his old routine in days

[Vol]

The death toll from Covid here in my county is alarmingly high during the last 30 days. The local funeral home is only doing private graveside services. No receiving at the funeral home, and if a loved one passes it will be about a week before they can be interred. 

 

Here, mostly the aged has died from Covid, but there are plenty of 50-60 year olds dying and a few in the forties. Yeah, you hear of a few older folks getting Covid and having mild symptoms, but a lot more are going to the grave. 

 

Regards, Mike

[vhaby]

My wife persisted with calling hospitals, our physician, the Texas Health Dep't, etc. We finally received a time slot with one of the hospital's clinics and received the first Moderna vaccine shot on Jan. 7th. Had absolutely no side effects; in fact, while my wife has painful reactions to ordinary flu shots, she didn't even feel pain at the injection site the next day from this anti Covid vaccine. Second shot is scheduled for Feb. 4th. At our ages, even though we live in a gated community of two people behind our locked ranch gate, we can't afford to be afraid of taking these shots.

Vincent

[Cactus50]

Vaccines don't last long here, by the time you find out some place has it... it's gone.  I'm on a waiting list with two pharmacies  and my Dr's office. Our county has a low infection and death rate but the next county over is Bexar which is where San Antonio is located and they posted they're were 3000 deaths Friday. 

[vhaby]

I don't 'like' that there were 3,000 deaths attributed to COVID in San Antonio, but I like that you are continuing to pursue getting vaccinated. Most of my siblings still live in Medina County which borders Bexar County/San Antonio. Glad to see you active on HT.

Vincent

[JD3430]

I know it sounds controversial, but I think the death numbers are exaggerated. From what I have seen, many people who die and had any degree of covid, including no symptoms or sickness, were classified as Covid deaths. Even heart attacks, car accidents, gun short wounds, etc. 

[slowzuki]

That’s been disproven.

I know it sounds controversial, but I think the death numbers are exaggerated. From what I have seen, many people who die and had any degree of covid, including no symptoms or sickness, were classified as Covid deaths. Even heart attacks, car accidents, gun short wounds, etc.

[Cactus50]

I will share this experience a couple of friends of ours had regarding Covid testing:

 

Back in early April they went to their local clinic to get tested; checked in and then sat waiting to be called back for testing. The wait was longer then they anticipated and the waiting room started filling up with other folks there for testing or other medical reasons. My friends started getting nervous having such close contact with so many people so they left. A little over a week later they received notices in the mail that they tested positive for Covid. True story. Not saying the numbers are exaggerated just saying this happened to them.  

[r82230]

This is from my local paper (today's edition verbatim):

 

"Five Michigan counties – Clinton, Eaton, Genesee, Ingham, and Washtenaw – participate in the CDC’s Influenza Hospitalization Surveillance Network. From Oct. 1, 2020 through Jan. 2, 2021 those counties have reported only five adult influenza-associated hospitalizations. That compares to about 170 hospitalizations for the same period a year ago.

 

In Lapeer County, according to records provided by Lapeer County Health Dept., there were 436 confirmed cases the flu during the 2019-2020 flu season, Oct. 1, 2019 through April 30, 2020. The vast majority those cases, 369, occurred in January through March of last year. For the current flu season that started on Oct. 1, 2020 through December 31, 2020 Lapeer County has reported only 1 confirmed case of the flu. That compares to 67 confirmed cases in the same period in 2019.

 

Whether measured on a national, state or local scale, there just isn’t much flu around this season. Or is it just getting reported as COVID?

 

Both Dr. Zajchowski and Lapeer County Health Director Katherine Haskins say that is not the case."

 

Farther down in the article is this part:

 

"Haskins concurs. “As far as Influenza cases being reported as COVID, not so,” she said. “Most ERs run what they call a respiratory panel. Part of that is Influenza types A & B, often RSV (respiratory syncytial virus which causes flu-like symptoms), and COVID was added. However, if the Influenza test is positive it is reported as influenza in our reporting system with a copy of the test result. I’ve seen the report sheets. Each test result is listed separately. It’s only reported as COVID if it tests positive for COVID,” Haskins concluded.

 

In spite of the conspiracy theories, a hospital has very little incentive to misclassify influenza as COVID-19. Hospitals receive an additional 20% for Medicare patients treated for COVID-19 through funding created by the CARES Act last April. But that applies only to patients whose healthcare is paid for by Medicare. And those payments fall well below a hospital’s normal billing and costs, so a 20% upcharge allowed by a COVID diagnosis is not going to reap a windfall. A COVID diagnosis requires documentation, such as a positive test. Falsifying those documents would be unethical and illegal. The penalties to hospitals for Medicare fraud are steep."

 

I found the "hospital has very little incentive" part interesting, 20% upcharge would NOT be an incentive?  Full disclosure, this hospital/paper are located in the 'MJ shops' hotspot of the county.  City has around 5,000 folks county around 90,000 folks for population.  City is the only one in the county that has approved MJ stores.  Only 6 where approved to sell, no limit on growing facilities. 

 

I'm a believer in 'looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck, it's probably a duck' thought process, perhaps I'm wrong (again). 

 

Larry

[Vol]

That’s been disproven.
 

 

Let me guess.....your statement is based on science? Or is it based on what someone told you? Or is it based on something that you have read and that you personally believe? Or did you hear it in the media? 

 

Your statement is impossible to prove as correct. 

 

Regards, Mike

[swmnhay]

That’s been disproven.
 

A Dr says different and was reprimanded for saying it.

https://youtu.be/KpGeRFK0tao

 

he explains it well.

[JD3430]

That’s been disproven.
 

By who? Jack Dorsey? 
New York Times? 
Theres SO MUCH money in declaring anyone who is sick or dies WITH Covid.

Hospitals would be foolish not to declare anyone who dies, from dying from Covid.

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[RockyHill]

A Dr says different and was reprimanded for saying it.

https://youtu.be/KpGeRFK0tao

 

he explains it well.

 

Do you know what became of this reprimand?

 

Shelia