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#1 Maxpower

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Posted 16 August 2020 - 09:59 AM

This would be granular urea. It's been a dry summer, I wasn't able to get all of it down before the big .07" we got the other day. Couple more pastures to go. As of right now it's not forecasted to rain for 6 days. Temps 80 during the day 50 at night so we have a decent dew going. Is it okay to put it down now or should I wait until closer to when it's supposed to rain.



#2 slowzuki

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Posted 16 August 2020 - 10:26 AM

Wait, you will lose a lot of it if you put it on now.

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Posted 16 August 2020 - 11:05 AM

I can send you some rain. It has been ridiculous down here. I can’t get even 3 dry days.
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Posted 16 August 2020 - 11:34 AM

No urea unless it's going to rain. I put some down yesterday and it's not looking good for getting rain. Got another 24 hours of potential rain then 5 great days of making hay weather. I had it treated so hopefully there will be some value left next weekend when next rain is.



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Posted 16 August 2020 - 05:18 PM

No urea unless it's going to rain. I put some down yesterday and it's not looking good for getting rain. Got another 24 hours of potential rain then 5 great days of making hay weather. I had it treated so hopefully there will be some value left next weekend when next rain is.


I’ve had good success with agratain? I guess....had a good drought and when the rain finally came it really jumped. Like the OP, we had good dewpoints, really wet and I think that skewed my results a bit.

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Posted 17 August 2020 - 04:30 AM

I’ve had good success with agratain? I guess....had a good drought and when the rain finally came it really jumped. Like the OP, we had good dewpoints, really wet and I think that skewed my results a bit.

 

I think I got 5 sprinkles yesterday. This year with our ramped up fertilizer program I didn't care if we were "guaranteed" rain I treated all urea, not worth the risk. Used to be I would pick and choose when I treated it.


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#7 rjmoses

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Posted 17 August 2020 - 06:41 AM

Figure 5-10% loss/day, depending on temps, humidity, etc.  Agrotain about halves that rate. 

 

Hope this helps.

 

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Posted 18 August 2020 - 04:38 AM

I think I got 5 sprinkles yesterday. This year with our ramped up fertilizer program I didn't care if we were "guaranteed" rain I treated all urea, not worth the risk. Used to be I would pick and choose when I treated it.

 

For the little additional cost, I always treat urea, even when it calls for rain within 24 hours. 

 

I figure the loss per day at 10%-20% normally, meaning if I put it on today and it rains tomorrow, I will have lost at least 10% of my urea, maybe as much as 20%  (depends on the weather).

 

A 10% loss is worth about $40/per ton and Agrotain is a lot less expensive than that.   If the loss rate doubles or it doesn't rain, I have more than paid for the Agrotain.

 

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#9 IH 1586

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Posted 18 August 2020 - 10:54 AM

For the little additional cost, I always treat urea, even when it calls for rain within 24 hours. 

 

I figure the loss per day at 10%-20% normally, meaning if I put it on today and it rains tomorrow, I will have lost at least 10% of my urea, maybe as much as 20%  (depends on the weather).

 

A 10% loss is worth about $40/per ton and Agrotain is a lot less expensive than that.   If the loss rate doubles or it doesn't rain, I have more than paid for the Agrotain.

 

Ralph

 

Watched it rain last night north of me but not at farm. Got more sprinkles, so urea still waiting at the farm. Less than half mile my hay got rained. 0.7 in. Field next to it I had some urea on it. That should be in now.






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