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Welcome to my thread on New Holland equipment repair and other information you may find of some use. 

 

If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please start a new thread on the machinery forum or PM me.  This will make it easier for visitors to find the information they are looking for. Please, do not post questions here or in the following threads.

 

I have worked on New Holland equipment for over 46 years.   My goal by starting this thread was to share some of the knowledge I gained over the years.  I have seen many an experienced technician retire and their knowledge lost.

 

The posts will not follow any particular order.  As you scroll down this first post you will find a table of contents with links to each post on this thread.

 

My way of doing things is not the only way.  Regardless of how you choose to work on your equipment, always practice safety first.  Wear safety glasses, ear protection and any other safety equipment that is required to do a job safely.  In many of my posts on the round balers you will see the tailgate open.  Always lock your tailgate before entering an open bale chamber.

 

I have posts on tools I have made to make a job easier.  You are free to copy those tools, but only for your personal use.

 

Mike

 

Table of Contents

 

 

 

Round Baler

 

BR and Prior Belt Balers

 

Roll Service

 

Take-up arm roll service 4x6 & 5x6 Balers .  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=33249

 

Take Up arm roll R&R 4x5 & 5x5 Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=83286

 

Sledge frame and roll service  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=33121

 

BR Stationary Roll Repair  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=45410

 

600 Series 5 x 6 Round Baler Belt Drive Roll Service  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=48930

 

Removing Top Tailgate Rolls  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=61154

Overheating of the Stationary Roll on 700 Series BR Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=76664

 

Replacing the Sledge Roll Idler on a BR or Roll Belt Baler  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=87938

 

 

Auto-Wrap and Twine Systems

 

Auto-Wrap Does not Trip or Trips Late  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=62962

 

Auto-Wrap Trips but the Tying Process Does Not Start  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=81066

 

Auto Wrap Recycling   https://www.haytalk....attach_id=33682

 

Twine does not Cut  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=58898

Update Twine does not Cut 9 16 2017  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=61146

 

Twine Tubes do not Return  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=55562

 

 

Net Systems

 

Net not Cutting or Cutting Cleanly

     600 Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=34465

     600 Balers Update 8 13 2017  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=58642

     BR Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=83176

 

BR Actuator Stalling  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=35241

 

Removing Net Spreader Roll from 600 Series Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=51370

 

Insufficient Net Coverage on BR and Roll Belt Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=56994

 

Sharpening Net Knives  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=81420

 

Troubleshooting Flow Chart for BR Net Error Message  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=87946

 

 

Belts

 

Belt Tracking  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=35137

 

Preparing Round Baler Belts for Lacing  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=47377

 

 

Pickups

 

Chain on Left Side of Wide Pickup Comes Off  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=57202

 

Removing Wide Pickup From 5X6 BR Baler  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=58466

 

BR 2.0 Wide Pickup with Center Support Bearing Repair

  Pickup Removal  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=80290

  Disassemble Stuffer  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=80292

  Preparing Stuffer for Assembly  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=80294

  Install the Stuffer  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=80296

 

Electrical Diagrams

 

6?0 Round Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=36697

       6?0 Full Bale Alarm  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=36809

 

6?4 and 6?8 Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=36729

 

BR Round Balers Bale Command Plus  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=54281

      BR Full Bale Alarm With Bale Shape  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=37673

      BR Full Bale Alarm Without Bale Shape  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=38329

 

 

Troubleshooting

 

BR Baler Starts Wrapping at any Bale Size  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=81328

 

Bale Shape Indicator Bars do not Go to Bottom of the Scale after Ejecting a Bale  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=81506

 

BR Baler Operator Panel Will Not Turn On or Alarm Sounds Continuously and No Buttons Function  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=85516

 

General Information

 

Follower Roll Scraper Modifications  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=39794

 

BR Baler Preparation  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=45906

 

External Alarm for Roll Belt Baler  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=56410

 

 

 

 

 

Roll Belt Balers

 

Wrapping Systems

 

Fault Codes  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=82560

 

 

 

 

Small Square Baler

 

Hay dog service  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=33457

 

Knotter Repair Part 1  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=34218

 

Knotter Repair Part 2   https://www.haytalk....attach_id=34689

 

Knotter Problems

   Twine Comes Out of Needle Eye  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=41113

 

Replacing the Pickup Drive Belt 565, 570, 575 

https://www.haytalk....attach_id=69193

 

Replacing the Knife Arm Roller Retained by Peening  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=74138

 

Adjusting Plunger and Knives 500 and BC Series Balers  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=75098

 

 

Discbine

 

Constant Velocity Driveline and Repair  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=47009

 

Removing, Disassembly, Assembly, and Installation of a Discbine Cutter Bar

                 Part 1  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=87360

                 Part 2  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=87362

 

Repairing a Disc Cutter Bar Module

                Disassembly  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=52890

                Assembly       https://www.haytalk....attach_id=52898

 

1411, 1412, H7230, H7330 Bevel Gearbox Failures  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=60146

 

1411, 1412, H7230, H7330 Bevel Gearbox Repair  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=60786

 

Separating the Cutterbar Where the Drive Shaft is Stuck in the Pinions  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=70353

 

Repairing the Discbine Roll Drive Gearbox  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=73138

 

Removing Cutter Bar Drive Shaft from 9 and 10 foot Discbines  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=84308

 

 

Disc Mower

 

Hooking up a Disc Mower  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=34737

 

Hooking up a 3pt Hitch Disc Mower Update  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=51378

 

 

 

Sickle Bar Mower

 

Replacing Outer Shoe Ledger Plate  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=62138

 

 

 

Rakes

 

Roll-a-Bar Gearbox Repair  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=54745

 

 

 

Tools I have made

 

273 and 310 Feeder Bushing Removal Tool  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=38321

 

Hay Dog Spring Installation Tool  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=38874

 

Round Baler Roll Bearing Removal Tool  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=40129

 

Stub Guard Alignment Tool  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=42497

 

 

 

Skid Loader

 

Skid loader will not Start  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=53729

 

Starting Circuit Wiring Schematics

 

             LX and Early LS Models with Metal Instrument Panels  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=54553  

             Late LS Models with Plastic Instrument Panels and LS.B Models  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=54754

             Early L100 Models with Rectangular Work Lights  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=55162

             Cab Upgrade L100 with Vertical Work Lights  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=79532

 

Wiring Schematics

             L200 Air Conditioner Wiring Schematic  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=86502

 

Timing a LS180, LS190 for Injection Pump Removal  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=63914

 

 

 

Grinder Mixer

         

             New Holland Grinder Mixer Information  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=65306

 

 

 

How I ......

 

Remove Sprockets and Pulleys from Tapered Shafts  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=43762

 

 

 

General Information

 

Slip Clutch Maintenance  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=35537

     Small Square Baler https://www.haytalk....attach_id=35545

 

Sealed Bearings with Locking Collars  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=55178

 

Constant Velocity Driveline and Repair  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=47009

 

Replacing Shafts in Metric Drivelines  https://www.haytalk....attach_id=64186

A few months ago I posted that I was planning to build a new hay barn.   Well now it is complete.   I went with a local builder as opposed to Morton buildings who we previously have used to build barns.   The local guy was about the same price as Morton, but offered overhead doors rather then the slider doors that I'm absolutely sick of on our current barns.    I'm even considering having this guy convert our current buildings to overhead doors later this year I like them so much.  Also the quality was better I felt.   This barn when totally full should hold about 1500 3x3 bales.   Though I hope never to have it completely full.   Meaning I hope to be selling fast enough that it won't be full all the time.  It is 60x152.  18 feet to the trusses.  

 

IMG_2708 by Marc Oster, on Flickr

 

IMG_2706 by Marc Oster, on Flickr

 

IMG_2701 by Marc Oster, on Flickr

It was bitter cold here today after the 70's and 80's....it never got to 36°.....the Great Smoky Mountains were absolutely beautiful with their fresh blanket of snow that the higher elevations received last night.....none here in the valley.

 

Regards, Mike

 

Reposted from facebook"

 

Ted Nugent

 

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment.

The woman apologized to the young girl and explained, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days."

 

Today I got a PM from our good member and educator Vincent Haby. He spoke with Bill Wilson today and said Bill sounded good, but is occasionally still having some temporary memory loss that comes and goes.

 

It sounds like hay wilson in TX, as we know him, has probably retired from farming as Vincent said Bill told him that he had sold his place and was just enjoying life now.

 

Life goes on for all of us....some of us will be like Bill and health will force us to retire...some will retire because they just get tired of ag...and some will be forced out for economic reasons. I guess what I am saying is to enjoy it now....for tomorrow is not promised.

 

Thank you Bill (hay) Wilson for your expertise and wisdom....and especially for helping to make "Haytalk" a very credible and resourceful website.

 

And thank you Vincent for contacting Bill and informing us.

 

Oh, btw, I purposely placed this into the Alfalfa forum as Bill dearly loved his lucerne.

 

Best Regards, Mike Young

WARNING! this might be long winded but bear with me  Through a series of unexpected events i have become involved with trying to help a family retain their ownership piece of land that has been in their family since the late 60's. The father bought this property with money that he made himself. He was logger, repair man,served in the military as a cook and engineer  you name it, if it was hard work he did. Point is his Calloused hands secured this property for him and his family. This part of Vermont where this property is located is know for Independent people who take care of themselves and rely on neighbors for a helping hand for a helping hand. That  has alway worked well, but unfortunately Vermont has become very popular to people who live in places like Ct, Ny, Nj, Mass, those people sell their property for a small fortune down there then bring it up here to reinvest into real estate here. This does 2 things one positive and one negative, it provides opportunities for people like me to sell them hay, plow their driveways etc. On the negative side it vastly increases property values well beyond the  ability  for the traditional products to pay for them. Increased property values of course raises property taxes. Then these people, people with soft hands not being as self reliant as the "natives" want more services from the town, this raises taxes. Vt has a good current use program that helps with this issue, problem is to these independent types it's considered " Dam Government money" With the old school attitude of "I serve my country my country don't serve me" they never took advantage of that program. The last few years has been tough on this family following a death of an family member and the fathers health has steadily declining the have fallen behind.The vultures had been circling so I was enlisted a month ago to come in and try to harvest enough logs to pay off these taxes. I've worked my butt and  winter belly  off but i'm proud to say that the taxes will be paid. It took Calloused hands sixty odd years ago to get the property, a new pair of calloused hands to save it today, I'm surrounded by soft handed people today will there be a calloused hand around to save it in another 60?

         Regards, Ben

My father bought a new Deere 2520 in '72. It served as the big tractor until '83 or so. In '86 it was ran hot and needed a short block and being in a hurry he traded it on a 3010.

After the local dealer repaired it it went to work on a dairy farm north of us about 15 miles north and ran daily hauling manure.

The son who now owns that farm does custom harvesting for me and after talking about it for a year or so agreeded to sell it.

Dad bought it when he was 42. My mother got a part time job because she was convinced they couldn't pay for it. I guess it worked out as here he sits on it again at 90.

Almost no one in my neck of the woods uses a tedder, and for the life of me I can't figure out why. Hardly anyone grows much alfalfa (we don't have the right soil for it), and they all stress over getting their hay to dry. I've been using a tedder as a primary piece of machinery for about 5 years now, and last week was good reassurance for me as to why a tedder is truly a grass hay producers best friend.

 

A week ago Friday (June 23) I cut 12 acres into wide swaths, at the exact same time I saw my neighbor cutting one of his fields into narrow windrows. The next day (Saturday) I tedded it while I watched my neighbor turn his with his side rake, and then that night I cut another 12 acre field. On Sunday I raked and baled the first field at about 12% moisture and made almost 3 ton to the acre while I watch my neighbor, with no success, try to bale his hay and obviously stop due to high moisture readings. The next day (Monday) I tedded the second 12 acre field and by early evening we were able to start baling it due to good hot weather while I watched my neighbor finally start to be able to bale his first field. 

 

Now this is where it gets interesting. The forecast for Monday was 20% chance of T-storms for Monday night, but by mid day Monday that chance had increased to almost 100% (sometimes I want to strangle the computer that creates these forecasts). Needles to say that we baled and picked up with the bale wagon faster than the Duke boys could drive the general Lee. Well, the T-storm that wasn't supposed to hit until after 8pm actually hit at about 7pm, and it hit with a vengeance like I've not seen here in a long time putting down about an inch of rain in no time. Thankfully when the rain went from nothing to torrential downpour I had already unloaded the wagon in the barn and was on my way back out empty. otherwise my whole load would have gotten drenched. 

 

My wife was baling when the storm hit, and when she came out of the field the poor baler looked like a drowned cat. But all said and done, we only had about 5 ton in the field, and about half of it was in bales (small squares). At this time, I look over at my neighbor, and he's got about half of his field baled and still all in the field.

 

The next day (Tuesday), the sun came out and the wind blew. So as soon as the stubble was dry we cut the bales open and spread everything out with the tedder, including the fully drenched windrows. In the late afternoon, I hit it all again with the tedder, and by evening we were able to bale it up and put in the barn dry. In reality, you couldn't hardly tell the difference between this hay and the non-rained on hay. It looked and smelled great.

 

My neighbor on the other hand was unable to do anything with his hay, so there it sat in the field. And Wednesday... It rained again . So, to be a good neighbor, I lent him my tedder and he was finally able to get his hay baled and out of the field. Needless to say... he ran out and ordered himself a tedder.

 

I thought it was interesting to be able to really see the difference between using a tedder and not. So, the moral of this story is that if you grow grass hay and have ever struggled with getting it to dry, then figure out how to get yourself a tedder. You won't regret it.

 

Sorry for the long read. It just seamed like a story worth telling .

 

Happy haying.

 

-Kyle

Here is the seeder I bought last week....it is a Brillion SSBP-10.....dual seed boxes(large and small seed). Looking forward to using it if it will just dry up a bit.

 

Regards, Mike

 

Teslan said we needed to start a new photo and video thread for this year so here it goes.

 

Here's some of the calves so far this season.

 

 

 

I’m breaking radio silence, to acknowledge a couple of folks and I posting this under machinery, because that is where these guy seem to do their best work. IMHO

 

First while at the NFMS in Louisville KY, last week with two of my sons and grandson. I came upon the Krone display, so I naturally as if Krone1 was in attendance. After a small interrogation (by his fellow cohorts, to see if I was an anti-Krone1 activist or something), he was pointed out to me. It was great to finally meet, shake hands and re-thank a guy that was a lot of help with my purchase and warranty fix of my new Krone tedder last year. Thanks again to Krone1 and his valuable assistance. BTW, a Krone Tedder is built like a tank and he is trying to get the marketing department to help him out on HT. Seems 10pm to 12pm at night isn’t always conducive to his ability to post answers and get some rest at the same time.

 

The second guy had told me if I was ever in the Southern Indiana area to stop and look him up, so I did so. It was also very satisfying to finally meet the one and only Mike10 face to face. Mike was a tremendous help to me with my NH round baler (just look at the ‘My NH repair procedures, tips & tricks’ pinned on HT).

 

A couple of side notes about Mike10, first southern Indiana NH folks look to be in good hands, should Mike ever retire. As I went in the store, I could but help notice a cute little girl (maybe 4, I didn’t ask and didn’t want to disturb one of Mike’s workers), sitting on a stool at the parts counter. She had a shop rag neatly laid out in front of her with carburetor (chain saw I believe), in pieces (all professionally neatly laid on the shop rag too). As I walked by later, I noticed that the carburetor was re-assembled, with no extra parts (like I would have had!). I think this little girl is Mike’s niece (so there is the possible heredity mechanical influence), but she sure impressed me with her mechanical skills. (For those wondering no, I did not ask about Indiana’s child labor laws, just let sleeping dogs lay, I have been told in the past.) And if she follows in Mike’s footsteps, I have to admit she would probably be a much better-looking service manager than Mike (this is where my comment about Southern Indiana NH folks being in good hands comes from, along with her already developing mechanical skills).

 

The second note is I didn’t realize Mike’s neck of woods was quite so hilly. If you go visit him, follow his directions and don’t do what I did and forget them on the kitchen table. Seems I thought I could just use Garmin (after leaving Mike’s instructions at home).  Garmin got me there OK, but it seems that Garmin lead me down some narrower and narrower gravel roads after leaving the inter-state. Not that the route wasn’t scenic, just if I had met a 11’ discbine or even a 4 row corn head, one of us would have had to completely leave the roadway. I have seen farm lanes wider than some of the roads Garmin took us down. Mike did give me directions that were just as scenic, but all paved on the way back to the interstate.

 

An amazing thought on my part, is how great it is that Mike takes the time to help out folks on Haytalk, ALL while working a full-time job!!! He is definitely ‘giving’ away intellectual talent, along with his valuable time.

Anyhow, hats off to Mike and finally putting a face to name and being able to personally thank the guy for what he does (and did for me), thanks again Mike10. Hopefully, we will have Mike10 around to answer a lot of questions or give his insight for a long while. (However, I think if you have any carburetor questions, you might need to wait a year or so for what appears to be his well-qualified associate to get old enough to use the internet).

 

Both of these guys have full time jobs and are willing to give up some of their ‘free’ time to help others, I can’t say enough good things about them.  Thanks again Krone1 and Mike 10, you guys are some of the best!!!

 

Before I get myself into trouble, better silence the radio.

 

Larry

Had it for a bit,  but thought I would post my new (to me) first ever cab tractor.

 

JX1100u  800 hours,  24x24 transmission

 

Main reason for the cab was upgrading to a NH7220 Discbine.  from a NH1465 haybine.  Sold my Kubota 8540 to a local HT member who posted that he was looking for a good used tractor.  I wish I was able to afford keeping the Kubota as it really was a great tractor.  If I had the cash I would get another Kubota in a heart beat.   But I did grow up driving Red, so it It just had to happen in Red.  

 

In the process of figuring out how to mount the cab controls for the applicator, Delmost, kicker control,  and round bale monitor.  

 

Next step,  finding more hay land! 

Not to kiss butt but I would say hands down this site. I've been in a bind more than once and every time there is someone here who has an idea on what to do to remedy it. It's a God send in a area where there aren't many people who do this anymore. Thanks to all of you.

Can't wait to mow some hay with this baby this coming spring!

Hello everyone! My name is Kabe Cain, i'm the owner of cain equipment. I just wanted to tell everyone my side and Krone's side of the story. We have been in the farm equipment business since 1958, started out selling WD 45 Allis Chamblers tractors; that was a long time ago. I was a Krone dealer for a number of years, had great luck with the product, still say its some of the best hay equipment made for several years. I was their largest hay tool dealer. I tried to sell the product off volume, just not a few units a year. In doing so, I had it advertised on the internet. I was selling their stuff in several states, I had other dealers complaining of my price to Krone and selling in their territory. Where i'm located is 50 miles north of Atlanta i'm not so rural. So, in order for me to stay in business I had to reach out. Krone's complaint with me is if I sell out of my territory I can't look after the customer. I can understand that some what, but any dealer will do the warranty work, I know I would, so intern they gave me 6 counties to sell in. I can't keep my doors open in 6 counties and I feel it's my business I should run it the way I want to. So, we have two different ways of doing business. I still say Krone has good equipment, unfortunately we can't do business together. It wasn't due to me not standing behind the product or service. This is the facts and the truth. Again, nothing bad to say about Krone, it was a great company to work with. We just can't work together anymore. I want to thank all of my customers out there for your business! If it wasn't for you and the Lord we wouldn't be open today. We still have several great lines of equipment. If I can help you with anything please keep us in mind .Thanks and God Bless!! - Kabe Cain

One simple answer....... Family

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5 years ago my wife quit teaching and went on maternity leave and has stayed with me on the farm full time since. She grew up on an acreage with five cows and has adjusted to having 500 cows, 2 kids, and a crazy husband quite well. Currently she is out pulling 50’ of heavy harrows in some ugly hills without any issues. The kids and I are out dealing with a few problematic cows and then got to find some lunch. Makes the stressful/miserable times much more enjoyable when you are surrounded by loved ones. The kids can now open gates, load syringes, and sweep the shop floor(kind of😉).

I figured it's time to get a new thread started for 2017. I know it's a bit early but things coming along pretty good here so far.

 

They're trying some Cereal Rye for an early hay crop this season. It was drilled in on Nov. 3rd and was an 1" high within 4 days. The stuff is coming on a bit sooner than I think it should in this area but with a Winter with almost no cold weather so far what can you expect. We did have about 7-8" of snow about 3 weeks and two nights in the single digits but that's really about all the Winter we've had. We've also had 7" of rain already this year.

 

These were taken Jan. the 5th.

 

 

 

 

I figure most folks are starting to get under way with their haying so i started this thread. Feel free to add to it.

 

Son cut the Oats in the flat today. I took these and thought they turned out pretty good, so has the hay so far.