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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:09 PM
Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:47 PM
Posted 28 June 2012 - 07:20 PM
I did put on about 200lbs of Urea to the acre and also sprayed some 2-4D ester a little over 3 weeks ago.
Cant recall off the top of my head but i believe you are supposed to wait 30 days or so after spraying 2-4d before you harvest for hay.
Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:42 PM
Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:35 PM
Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:27 PM
When the ground is dry and I know I'm going to have a fairly safe weather forecast, I'll keep it in a narrow windrow, don't ted, this protects most of the hay from bleaching in the hot sun as well as keeping the short pieces of grass together so you don't lose them in the stubble. At 90 degrees and dry your hay will cure pretty fast, maybe 2 days. I have seen it cure the same day if it hasn't had a rain for a while.
Conditions vary for everyone and this business is a combination of art and science, this summer it's been more art.
One advantage to getting old is that you know a lot of tricks, downside is trying to remember them.
Good luck and as always your mileage may vary.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:48 PM
Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:55 PM
Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:16 PM
Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:51 PM
I wonder if i would be ok to rake it up and then fluff it i know it's an extra trip over it i know, i just figured if i layed it wide for a day or so give it that extra time to dry.
Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:34 PM
My first cut grass could yield around 3 tons per acre. In mid may it will usually take a min of three days to cure and that includes spreading it wide and tedding at least once. Even then I end up with some hay that is pushing the upper limit for moisture. Seems like that time of year the weather is never favorable and most of the time I'm hurrying to get the hay out of the field before the next rain hits.
A couple weeks ago, I did a second cut on a 14 acre field of alfalfa / orchard grass. It's been so dry that I was able to leave it in a narrow windrow for 3 days. I was able to rake at 5:30 am (no dew) on the 4th day and was baling by 9:30 am. Most of the orchard grass was less than a foot tall. If I had tedded, I'm sure a lot of it would have been lost in the stubble and the rake wouldn't pick it up. It made really nice hay and the yield was 550 bales @ about 60 pounds each with the moisture around 12%. In a normal year I would have still taken the same time but would have spread it out and tedded the morning after cutting.
It's been so wet for the last 3 or 4 years I almost forgot what dry weather haying was like.
Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:32 AM
We must have a different variety of orchard grass then or it is much thicker.
Could be, our first cuttings typically average around 3 ton per acre and subsequent cuttings around 40% of that. Our average rainfall is over 50" annually so our first cutting is pretty lush. A couple of years ago I switched from using a U.S. variety called Darby and went to a European variety called Athos. It does have thinner stems and somewhat thinner leaves and matures about 2 weeks later than Darby. It is a little slower to establish but I really like it and stock finds it very palatable. It still typically took only 2 days for domestic varietys of orchard grass to cure here, and that is what is typical for most forage people here.
Posted 06 July 2012 - 04:15 PM
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