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#1 Thad

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 09:27 PM

I saw an advertisement for it. Looked it up on the computer and am interested. Has any one used it and if so what's your thoughts.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:45 AM

My view is that it's another magic potion to feed the microbes. While the theory is great, they are really just trying to move some of your fertilizer dollars into their pockets and aren't giving you much value in return. There is no science to back up their claims. It's like herbal medicine for hayfields....Probably won't hurt, you'll feel good for a while, but it won't do any good either. Long-term your fertility will likely suffer.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:39 AM

My view is that it's another magic potion to feed the microbes. While the theory is great, they are really just trying to move some of your fertilizer dollars into their pockets and aren't giving you much value in return. There is no science to back up their claims. It's like herbal medicine for hayfields....Probably won't hurt, you'll feel good for a while, but it won't do any good either. Long-term your fertility will likely suffer.


What a nice way to describe a S_ O_!

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

That sounds about right to me. I think I will stick with my litter. Thanks!

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 03:23 PM

Actually it is a great product! Regardless of what others say it works great! Way cheaper than fertilizer. I know of a guy in Georgia that bought it and put it on his meadows and in 18 days cut his meadows. Which was yesterday. I use it and my neighbors are trying it for the first time this year. got a meadow redy to cut now!

#6 Mike120

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:38 PM

Foliar feeding works well too....for a while. Unfortunately, the plants mine what else they need from the soil and eventually you end up with a large fertilizer bill because nothing will grow. Unfortunately, growing hay and other stuff involves a material balance....It takes X amount of NPK and other nutrients to grow Y tons of hay. This is removed with the hay. The happy microbes may replace some, but not all, that was removed and you get a second cutting, and so on. Depending on your soil you might get a couple of years out of the field....Fine if it belongs to someone else (that's an ethical issue), but there is a high probability the fertility will suffer and eventually you'll have to replace it if you want to continue growing decent-yield hay. There is also a pretty good probability that your weed count will increase significantly. If you want to use the stuff, you're better off grazing the land....at least some of the nutrients are returned to the soil.

Edited by Mike120, 30 March 2012 - 09:40 PM.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:10 AM

In a year, I typicaly have to add about 800 lbs/ac of nutrients to replace what's been removed by taking hay from the field. There is no way on this God's green earth 3 gals/ac of some kind of liquid is going to match that, I don't care what the claims are. Just my opinion.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 11:03 AM

I have a friend in east Texas that used Terra-one Thicker pasture on his Nomad alfalfa, he mixed it with his liquid fertilizer and put them on at the same time. His first cutting was so thick and tall that it kept winding up on the conditioner on the swather, he had to keep cutting it off with his pocket knife, finally just took off the conditioner and raked it a couple of times! The RFV value was 220, up from 150-160 last year, I dont know, sounds pretty good to me!

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:35 PM

What sounds too good to be true usually ??????. Seen em come and go for years and years. It ain't nothing new!

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 05:36 PM

There is nothing that can reveal ones agricultural inexperience more than confirmation of a foliar fertilizer as a replacement for granular fertilizer. Not being mean.....just factual.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

First to Hay master, it does'nt feed the microbes, it is the microbes, a blend of 25 that should be in the soil already.Second, it does'nt replace fertilizer, it helps ultilize it so you use less, more money in your pocket!To Mike, it's not "foliar" it does'nt go into the plant, it travels down the foliage into the soil. It was applied via a 360* pivot before fist growth and if you want, after each cutting, in this case, 3, at an increase of one ton per acre from last year.dd

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:48 AM

First to Hay master, it does'nt feed the microbes, it is the microbes, a blend of 25 that should be in the soil already.Second, it does'nt replace fertilizer, it helps ultilize it so you use less, more money in your pocket!To Mike, it's not "foliar" it does'nt go into the plant, it travels down the foliage into the soil. It was applied via a 360* pivot before fist growth and if you want, after each cutting, in this case, 3, at an increase of one ton per acre from last year.dd


Whatever....

Giving all benefit of the doubt I went to the Terra One website and the first thing that came to mind was "Amway".

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:07 PM

Whatever....

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Don't you think this comment is a bit rude. I would expect that the staff of this site would be a bit more polite.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:18 PM

Don't you think this comment is a bit rude. I would expect that the staff of this site would be a bit more polite.


I suppose it could be interpreted as rude....it was more of a weary "whatever" as it seems that we have to address this snake oil treatment on a twice a month basis.....I am not a politically correct type person.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:09 PM

First to Hay master, it does'nt feed the microbes, it is the microbes, a blend of 25 that should be in the soil already.Second, it does'nt replace fertilizer, it helps ultilize it so you use less, more money in your pocket!To Mike, it's not "foliar" it does'nt go into the plant, it travels down the foliage into the soil. It was applied via a 360* pivot before fist growth and if you want, after each cutting, in this case, 3, at an increase of one ton per acre from last year.dd


I have to assume that you are telling the truth, as you know it, and are not merely repeating the sales information. That has no creditability. In the State of Texas commercial fertilizer is regulated through the Fertilizer Control Act of the Texas Agriculture Code. The Fertilizer Rules are formulated in the Texas Administrative Code and the Office of the Texas State Chemist "protects consumers and enhances agribusiness through its feed and fertilizer regulatory compliance program....". If it's a fertilizer, then it must pass tests certifing it's content before it is marketed, so when you buy fertilizer there is an excellent chance that you will get what you paid for. Also, with commercial fertilizer TAMU does many published studies on what works best for various crops in varoius soils in the State. With those two working in concert you can use what has been proven, with science, to work, and you know that you are buying real fertilizer.

Terra One is marketed as a "soil enhancement". It's not regulated, there's no science behind it, no long-term studies, no certifications, and no guarantees. There are pretty pictures, quotes from "happy customers" and other marketing babble.....along with the opportunity to buy a lot of it from them and become a dealer. As I pointed out before, "It's like herbal medicine for hayfields....Probably won't hurt, you'll feel good for a while, but it won't do any good either. Long-term your fertility will likely suffer". If you want to use it, go ahead. I wish you well and hope it does everything you think it will do. Myself, I'll stick to commercial fertilizer, read the results of scientific studies, and keep plugging along trying to grow and bale decent hay. I quit listening to sales fabrications years ago and I'm certainly not going to start now. By the way, they only give you "18 super vigorous strains of organic soil bacteria", instead of 25. Perhaps they'll give you a discount. Please let us know how it works out for you, and good luck.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:09 PM

First to Hay master, it does'nt feed the microbes, it is the microbes, a blend of 25 that should be in the soil already.Second, it does'nt replace fertilizer, it helps ultilize it so you use less, more money in your pocket!To Mike, it's not "foliar" it does'nt go into the plant, it travels down the foliage into the soil. It was applied via a 360* pivot before fist growth and if you want, after each cutting, in this case, 3, at an increase of one ton per acre from last year.dd


Hmmm??? Did last year happen to be the seedling (first) year for this alfalfa? Seedling year yields are usually about one ton less than the succeeding couple of years. Regardless, without side by side replacated and statistically analyzed data one can never be be certain about cause and effect of anything applied to a crop, especially from one year without application to the next year with application of a product. I'm afraid you've been sold a bill of goods.

I'd be real curious to know where in East Texas there is a center pivot irrigated alfalfa field. East Texas soils generally are acid and although it can be done, it is difficult to locate soils in this region that will support alfalfa, although irrigation helps.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:15 AM

Had a nieghbor that used another fooo foo juice for yrs.His crops looked terible.He finally seen the light when he rented another farm that was highly fertilized and got alot more corn/beans off of it the first yr he had it.Well after following the FooFoo program for yrs his soil tests are terrible on his ground and now he is trying to build it with $600 a ton fertilizer when he was cutting back when it was $200 a ton. OUCH

I'd hat to guess what the FoooFooo Juice cost him.

Now he grid samples.Uses dry fert.Limes where needed.And his crops look great

No Fooo Fooo Jiice for me!!
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:58 AM

The curse of ignorance is that the victim rarely suspects.....Enlightenment is usually preceded by recognition and remediation. Sadly, we often don't know, what we don't know and thus, are all victims in a sense.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:17 AM

The curse of ignorance is that the victim rarely suspects.....Enlightenment is usually preceded by recognition and remediation. Sadly, we often don't know, what we don't know and thus, are all victims in a sense.


Yes indeed....I hope that most of the young people who voted for obamas change platform can see more clearly now...and realize just how "really bad" the country is economically and continues to slide and flounder....obama got some much needed bad news today in the economic growth report.....slowest in over a year....yes we are backpedaling.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:24 AM

I think that Mike 120 and Vhaby hit it on the head. When they start making the Foo Foo juice with alcohol ( hopefully before harvest) I will participate a little.




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